<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Demand Studios Review: Working for Demand Studios</title> <atom:link href="http://cashcampfire.com/demand-studios-review-working-for-demand-studios/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://cashcampfire.com/demand-studios-review-working-for-demand-studios/</link> <description>Your freelance writing resource to igniting income online,</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 02:31:24 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=</generator> <item><title>By: Demand Studios Writer</title><link>http://cashcampfire.com/demand-studios-review-working-for-demand-studios/#comment-1980</link> <dc:creator>Demand Studios Writer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 21:10:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://cashcampfire.com/?p=941#comment-1980</guid> <description>I currently work for Damned Studios, and I am anxiously awaiting the day that I can find a real job.As one who appreciates well-crafted and informative writing, the mind-numbing and soul-stealing nature of the work itself is bad enough, but after about a year, I have gotten used to it. This is partially due to the fact that I have moved up the ladder a bit, allowing me to make a marginally decent income instead of a pittance.Before I go into bashing DS, though, I must admit one thing: I love their method of payment. No one pays freelancers as quickly and efficiently as they do. However, DS&#039;s virtues end there.The first issue with DS is, obviously, the pay scale. I recently had an editor tell me to revise my article so that it could be on the level of something one would see in a major national magazine. I thanked the editor for his/her input, which actually was very professional and intelligent, unlike input I have gotten from other DS editors. After making some token changes, though, I informed the editor that I would not be engaging in the multiple hours of research that his/her suggestions warranted, reminding him/her that a major national magazine would pay $100 - $400 for such an article. (I was making $25.) This story is relevant because the editor&#039;s comments were in accord with DS&#039;s expectations.The second issue with DS - and probably the most important one - is the fact that too many freelance editors and DS staff are just plain stupid. I do admit that I have written a few sub-par articles in my time that were rejected for at least somewhat valid reasons, but please remember that I was never getting paid for quality to begin with. Despite a few understandable rejections, though, most of the article rejections I have received - and subsequent appeal denials from DS staff - came as a result of a lack of basic reasoning abilities.One example is an article I wrote about business profitability. In the article, I mentioned that product size is something that affects business profitability. The editor rejected the article, though not because of that statement. When I appealed his rejection, the DS staff member who dealt with my appeal said that he stopped reading the article when he came to my statement about product size. He said that this statement proved that I knew nothing about business and finance and suggested that I perhaps should not be writing articles about business and finance. But, the DS system being what it is, I could not respond with a quick list of the various ways in which product size does affect profitability, such as when you have to ship it, store it or display it.This is just one of many examples. Despite its attempts to cast itself in another light, DS is a cheap, low-quality outfit that is successfully spamming the entire Internet by crowding useful information out of search engines. If I ever do get to move beyond this gig and become successful, I will hope that no one ever says, &quot;Hey, I read an article you wrote for eHow!&quot; I do not claim responsibility for the poor quality of those articles with my name on them. As I have said, I am not paid for quality, and even when I do produce quality articles, their idiotic editors have proven to be well adept at inserting incorrect grammar, vague phraseology, and false information into my articles without my consent.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I currently work for Damned Studios, and I am anxiously awaiting the day that I can find a real job.</p><p>As one who appreciates well-crafted and informative writing, the mind-numbing and soul-stealing nature of the work itself is bad enough, but after about a year, I have gotten used to it. This is partially due to the fact that I have moved up the ladder a bit, allowing me to make a marginally decent income instead of a pittance.</p><p>Before I go into bashing DS, though, I must admit one thing: I love their method of payment. No one pays freelancers as quickly and efficiently as they do. However, DS&#8217;s virtues end there.</p><p>The first issue with DS is, obviously, the pay scale. I recently had an editor tell me to revise my article so that it could be on the level of something one would see in a major national magazine. I thanked the editor for his/her input, which actually was very professional and intelligent, unlike input I have gotten from other DS editors. After making some token changes, though, I informed the editor that I would not be engaging in the multiple hours of research that his/her suggestions warranted, reminding him/her that a major national magazine would pay $100 &#8211; $400 for such an article. (I was making $25.) This story is relevant because the editor&#8217;s comments were in accord with DS&#8217;s expectations.</p><p>The second issue with DS &#8211; and probably the most important one &#8211; is the fact that too many freelance editors and DS staff are just plain stupid. I do admit that I have written a few sub-par articles in my time that were rejected for at least somewhat valid reasons, but please remember that I was never getting paid for quality to begin with. Despite a few understandable rejections, though, most of the article rejections I have received &#8211; and subsequent appeal denials from DS staff &#8211; came as a result of a lack of basic reasoning abilities.</p><p>One example is an article I wrote about business profitability. In the article, I mentioned that product size is something that affects business profitability. The editor rejected the article, though not because of that statement. When I appealed his rejection, the DS staff member who dealt with my appeal said that he stopped reading the article when he came to my statement about product size. He said that this statement proved that I knew nothing about business and finance and suggested that I perhaps should not be writing articles about business and finance. But, the DS system being what it is, I could not respond with a quick list of the various ways in which product size does affect profitability, such as when you have to ship it, store it or display it.</p><p>This is just one of many examples. Despite its attempts to cast itself in another light, DS is a cheap, low-quality outfit that is successfully spamming the entire Internet by crowding useful information out of search engines. If I ever do get to move beyond this gig and become successful, I will hope that no one ever says, &#8220;Hey, I read an article you wrote for eHow!&#8221; I do not claim responsibility for the poor quality of those articles with my name on them. As I have said, I am not paid for quality, and even when I do produce quality articles, their idiotic editors have proven to be well adept at inserting incorrect grammar, vague phraseology, and false information into my articles without my consent.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Stuart</title><link>http://cashcampfire.com/demand-studios-review-working-for-demand-studios/#comment-1938</link> <dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:43:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://cashcampfire.com/?p=941#comment-1938</guid> <description>I finally got in and have been making good money. But now they just recently placed many writers in something called the &quot;Writer Evaluation Program&quot;, in which you can only write three articles which will be reviewed by a senior copy editor. If one article gets rejected, your &#039;fired&#039;. But even if all 3 do get accepted, there&#039;s a good chance you&#039;ll be &#039;fired&#039;, as it goes by previous work and many other factors. Even if your article ratings are average or proficient, you can still get placed in the program, like me. This has got me very nervous, as I am relying on this money for many reasons, and I know there are many writers who have been placed in it that write full time as well and rely on this money to feed their families. I think DS is going downhill. I&#039;m not sure what I&#039;ll do if I get &#039;fired&#039;, I just hope I don&#039;t.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally got in and have been making good money. But now they just recently placed many writers in something called the &#8220;Writer Evaluation Program&#8221;, in which you can only write three articles which will be reviewed by a senior copy editor. If one article gets rejected, your &#8216;fired&#8217;. But even if all 3 do get accepted, there&#8217;s a good chance you&#8217;ll be &#8216;fired&#8217;, as it goes by previous work and many other factors. Even if your article ratings are average or proficient, you can still get placed in the program, like me. This has got me very nervous, as I am relying on this money for many reasons, and I know there are many writers who have been placed in it that write full time as well and rely on this money to feed their families. I think DS is going downhill. I&#8217;m not sure what I&#8217;ll do if I get &#8216;fired&#8217;, I just hope I don&#8217;t.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dustin</title><link>http://cashcampfire.com/demand-studios-review-working-for-demand-studios/#comment-1883</link> <dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 06:21:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://cashcampfire.com/?p=941#comment-1883</guid> <description>Good morning Christina!Thank you so much for this informative blog, and the equally wonderful comments you&#039;ve given other readers. I&#039;ve been rejected three times by DS, as of last night, and I&#039;d like to ask your advice, if you have the time.The first thing I should say, is I have no official freelance writing experience. I think I am a fairly excellent writer (humility my strong suit is not), but without the experience on my resume, it&#039;s not really surprising I got rejected. I&#039;m not looking for DS to be a full-time gig, as I&#039;ve already written a book soon to be published, and I&#039;m starting my own publishing company. I would LOVE to squeeze in there if I could though, as they seem to be one of the best cash cows for upfront freelancers thus far. Revenue sharing isn&#039;t really a concern for me.I applied to Break Studios today, but have heard that they have a long turnaround for editing and acceptance. Also, I&#039;ve heard their content pool dries up frequently. If possible, may I send you my resume and writing samples, to get some advice on how to increase my chances for the next attempt say...in a month or two? I was accepted at TextBroker today with a 4-star rating, and wrote an article, but I won&#039;t be sticking around there. I hate their selection, and the instructions from the clients are usually very vague and frustrating.Any help you can give me would be immensely appreciated! I&#039;m just nonplussed, because a friend of mine applied right out of high school, with no writing experience, and was accepted.Thank you so much.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning Christina!</p><p>Thank you so much for this informative blog, and the equally wonderful comments you&#8217;ve given other readers. I&#8217;ve been rejected three times by DS, as of last night, and I&#8217;d like to ask your advice, if you have the time.</p><p>The first thing I should say, is I have no official freelance writing experience. I think I am a fairly excellent writer (humility my strong suit is not), but without the experience on my resume, it&#8217;s not really surprising I got rejected. I&#8217;m not looking for DS to be a full-time gig, as I&#8217;ve already written a book soon to be published, and I&#8217;m starting my own publishing company. I would LOVE to squeeze in there if I could though, as they seem to be one of the best cash cows for upfront freelancers thus far. Revenue sharing isn&#8217;t really a concern for me.</p><p>I applied to Break Studios today, but have heard that they have a long turnaround for editing and acceptance. Also, I&#8217;ve heard their content pool dries up frequently. If possible, may I send you my resume and writing samples, to get some advice on how to increase my chances for the next attempt say&#8230;in a month or two? I was accepted at TextBroker today with a 4-star rating, and wrote an article, but I won&#8217;t be sticking around there. I hate their selection, and the instructions from the clients are usually very vague and frustrating.</p><p>Any help you can give me would be immensely appreciated! I&#8217;m just nonplussed, because a friend of mine applied right out of high school, with no writing experience, and was accepted.</p><p>Thank you so much.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mia</title><link>http://cashcampfire.com/demand-studios-review-working-for-demand-studios/#comment-1872</link> <dc:creator>Mia</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 01:41:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://cashcampfire.com/?p=941#comment-1872</guid> <description>I&#039;ve read this forum with interest, being new to demand media. I agree with the comment that you don&#039;t need to be an experienced writer to get hired. Having said that, I applied for livestrong.com and supplied a writing sample, although I&#039;m sure my credentials in health care likely had a lot to do with being accepted.  I&#039;ve done the initial 3 articles, the first and 3rd articles did have reasonable editorial comments, the 2nd had some totally random comments, one I didn&#039;t even understand or make sense, the other was a suggestion completely outside the scope of the article, if not complete opposite, of the article title, that I was to add to the very end of article, so I ignored it.  I didn&#039;t realize you get one chance for rewrites, then it gets rejected and all your time and effort is for nil. So, for the good two plus hours per article (if my 3rd article is accepted), I&#039;ve netted $50--the hardest $50 I ever earned!!  Six hours plus, including rewrite time, is probably close to minimum wage where I&#039;m at.  I think I can flip hamburgers for comparable wages.  Looking at other $25 articles seem to have 4-5 references, not worth the research time needed.  Maybe I&#039;ll focus on the $15 articles, so the per hour rate may make it worthwhile if it takes 1/2 hour, with experience.  Maybe demand media is just not for me.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read this forum with interest, being new to demand media. I agree with the comment that you don&#8217;t need to be an experienced writer to get hired. Having said that, I applied for livestrong.com and supplied a writing sample, although I&#8217;m sure my credentials in health care likely had a lot to do with being accepted.  I&#8217;ve done the initial 3 articles, the first and 3rd articles did have reasonable editorial comments, the 2nd had some totally random comments, one I didn&#8217;t even understand or make sense, the other was a suggestion completely outside the scope of the article, if not complete opposite, of the article title, that I was to add to the very end of article, so I ignored it.  I didn&#8217;t realize you get one chance for rewrites, then it gets rejected and all your time and effort is for nil. So, for the good two plus hours per article (if my 3rd article is accepted), I&#8217;ve netted $50&#8211;the hardest $50 I ever earned!!  Six hours plus, including rewrite time, is probably close to minimum wage where I&#8217;m at.  I think I can flip hamburgers for comparable wages.  Looking at other $25 articles seem to have 4-5 references, not worth the research time needed.  Maybe I&#8217;ll focus on the $15 articles, so the per hour rate may make it worthwhile if it takes 1/2 hour, with experience.  Maybe demand media is just not for me.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lisa</title><link>http://cashcampfire.com/demand-studios-review-working-for-demand-studios/#comment-1863</link> <dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:16:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://cashcampfire.com/?p=941#comment-1863</guid> <description>I write for Demand Studios and find it worth my time. I think many professional or quality writers instantly get disillusioned with their system and trash it or give up. Demand Studios does not historically produce high quality articles, edits can seem arbitrary, titles often don&#039;t make sense, and it can become a little mind numbing if you&#039;re trying to do it for hours every day. That&#039;s not to say writers can&#039;t produce quality articles there, but DS obviously values quantity over quality.I am a professional writer, but I use a pen name for DS. I personally feel it would detract from my writing portfolio, and I want my name to come up in the search engines with the high paying clients I work with, not $15 articles.Writers shouldn&#039;t make DS into something it isn&#039;t. It&#039;s a place to make some money, work from home, and flex your writing skills from time to time. Some professional writers never get the hang of it (which is understandable as it can be maddening at times) and sink too much time in it. I can write an article in 40 minutes. If it takes you more than an hour, it&#039;s probably not worth the time.Use DS to your advantage. But it&#039;s not going to make you famous or probably land you any profitable work with other clients.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I write for Demand Studios and find it worth my time. I think many professional or quality writers instantly get disillusioned with their system and trash it or give up. Demand Studios does not historically produce high quality articles, edits can seem arbitrary, titles often don&#8217;t make sense, and it can become a little mind numbing if you&#8217;re trying to do it for hours every day. That&#8217;s not to say writers can&#8217;t produce quality articles there, but DS obviously values quantity over quality.</p><p>I am a professional writer, but I use a pen name for DS. I personally feel it would detract from my writing portfolio, and I want my name to come up in the search engines with the high paying clients I work with, not $15 articles.</p><p>Writers shouldn&#8217;t make DS into something it isn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s a place to make some money, work from home, and flex your writing skills from time to time. Some professional writers never get the hang of it (which is understandable as it can be maddening at times) and sink too much time in it. I can write an article in 40 minutes. If it takes you more than an hour, it&#8217;s probably not worth the time.</p><p>Use DS to your advantage. But it&#8217;s not going to make you famous or probably land you any profitable work with other clients.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joshua</title><link>http://cashcampfire.com/demand-studios-review-working-for-demand-studios/#comment-1856</link> <dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 12:35:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://cashcampfire.com/?p=941#comment-1856</guid> <description>I remember the time when this whole Demand studio thing had came into existence. All I did after ending up frustrated was to start my own online business, and here I am.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the time when this whole Demand studio thing had came into existence. All I did after ending up frustrated was to start my own online business, and here I am.<br /> <span class="cluv">Joshua&#180;s last [type] ..<a class="03cfeafa34 1856" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.plumbingtrainingcourses.org/plumbing-practice-test/">Plumbing Practice Test</a></span></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mariama</title><link>http://cashcampfire.com/demand-studios-review-working-for-demand-studios/#comment-1851</link> <dc:creator>Mariama</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 23:53:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://cashcampfire.com/?p=941#comment-1851</guid> <description>Great point Dayton! I think writing for DS is a good way to earn some extra cash. Overall the copy editors are quite helpful, the more you write though, you come across some annoying characters. Some of their comments can be way out of line especially when it comes to rewrites and rejecting articles. I&#039;ve learnt to abandon rewrites rather than haggle with an irate copy editor. Cheers.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point Dayton! I think writing for DS is a good way to earn some extra cash. Overall the copy editors are quite helpful, the more you write though, you come across some annoying characters. Some of their comments can be way out of line especially when it comes to rewrites and rejecting articles. I&#8217;ve learnt to abandon rewrites rather than haggle with an irate copy editor. Cheers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Barbara</title><link>http://cashcampfire.com/demand-studios-review-working-for-demand-studios/#comment-1848</link> <dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 23:11:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://cashcampfire.com/?p=941#comment-1848</guid> <description>Great posts - thanks Christina! Very useful info.A word about DMS; I was a writer and it is everything others have already said. If you want to write for them DO NOT appeal rejections and do not say anything negative about their CEs. Make sure your research is top notch and try not to be upset when your edits are contradictory and confusing. And be sure to read every notice posted by the editors. If you tend to take criticism personally I suggest avoiding DMS – the stress probably isn’t worth it. Good luck...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great posts &#8211; thanks Christina! Very useful info.</p><p>A word about DMS; I was a writer and it is everything others have already said. If you want to write for them DO NOT appeal rejections and do not say anything negative about their CEs. Make sure your research is top notch and try not to be upset when your edits are contradictory and confusing. And be sure to read every notice posted by the editors. If you tend to take criticism personally I suggest avoiding DMS – the stress probably isn’t worth it. Good luck&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Aisling</title><link>http://cashcampfire.com/demand-studios-review-working-for-demand-studios/#comment-1827</link> <dc:creator>Aisling</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 17:38:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://cashcampfire.com/?p=941#comment-1827</guid> <description>Hi Christina,I live in Ireland and I am trying to find out why Demand Studios only accepts people from the UK, Canada and the US. Also is there any way that people from countries such as Ireland can apply?Thanks :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Christina,</p><p>I live in Ireland and I am trying to find out why Demand Studios only accepts people from the UK, Canada and the US. Also is there any way that people from countries such as Ireland can apply?</p><p>Thanks <img src='http://cashcampfire.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Christina Crowe</title><link>http://cashcampfire.com/demand-studios-review-working-for-demand-studios/#comment-1727</link> <dc:creator>Christina Crowe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:52:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://cashcampfire.com/?p=941#comment-1727</guid> <description>Hi Suzzaine,That&#039;s a good question, and one I think every writer contemplates at one time or another.The truth is, most guides that you find online aren&#039;t very credible and often times even have false information. What makes a piece unique is when you capture your own story in your articles and write facts based on your own experiences working with the topic, while backing them up with credible information that you find elsewhere. Now, it doesn&#039;t have to be obvious that you&#039;re writing the article based off of your own hands-on knowledge (and most times when you write factual articles on Demand Studios, it won&#039;t be), but you should at least have some sort of background with the topic you&#039;re writing about, even if it&#039;s just years of intense research.But if you write about a topic that you know well (both online and off), your own personal experiences will be what you bring new to the table. Demand Studios just likes you to back up any factual knowledge with other reputable sources, so that&#039;s why it&#039;s recommended to do the research. And researching the topic well may help clear up any fuzzy details you&#039;re a tad shaky on.I hope I helped!Christina</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Suzzaine,</p><p>That&#8217;s a good question, and one I think every writer contemplates at one time or another.</p><p>The truth is, most guides that you find online aren&#8217;t very credible and often times even have false information. What makes a piece unique is when you capture your own story in your articles and write facts based on your own experiences working with the topic, while backing them up with credible information that you find elsewhere. Now, it doesn&#8217;t have to be obvious that you&#8217;re writing the article based off of your own hands-on knowledge (and most times when you write factual articles on Demand Studios, it won&#8217;t be), but you should at least have some sort of background with the topic you&#8217;re writing about, even if it&#8217;s just years of intense research.</p><p>But if you write about a topic that you know well (both online and off), your own personal experiences will be what you bring new to the table. Demand Studios just likes you to back up any factual knowledge with other reputable sources, so that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s recommended to do the research. And researching the topic well may help clear up any fuzzy details you&#8217;re a tad shaky on.</p><p>I hope I helped!</p><p>Christina</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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